Hello people. I am a 26yo male and voraciously horny. I read this site front to back, up and down and can empathize with all of your collective experiences. I had 2 warts removed 2 years ago with no evident "recurrence". I have had sex with 2 ladies since then (in the last 6 months or so). Both of them knew before intercourse that I had been treated for warts - christ, was that tough to tell them. Basically, both could care less and neither has called to tell me that she has warts - but honestly I FEAR the day that one of them does. Both of these women love sex too and probably have had a number of partners since, so even if they did call to tell me some shit, I cannot say I could fully take responsibility - my admission to past exposure was all I could do - we are all responsible for our own actions. This is why I do not hate the girl who gave them to me - it was my own damn fault for fucking with her in the first place. If either of these women call me with warts, I will repost - I think it would be helpful for anyone out there terrified of sex now. I will post again if they do not call.
The stigma of HPV still haunts me. I think about it at night after I have flirted heavily at a bar the night before. It still keeps me from going out there and greedily chasing pussy, though there is nothing I would like to do more. Basically it is like this: I still want and need to fuck. Every person's experience is different - but I am coming to the belief that if properly treated - in most cases - safe sex is possible without transmission from so-called latent sub-dermal infections. I could be proven wrong, but I am not willing to let my dick shrivel up wondering. I am not a walking contagion. I am not a disease waiting to be spread. I absolutely refuse to be a monk - even if I could possibly maybe give some unfortunate soul a wart.
Here is a story:
My last GF was with man for 4 years previously who once had a case of herpes. He remained symptom free for years before they met. She knew and still had sex with him - for 4 years. She does not have herpes, though she has technically been "exposed". She is tested everytime she goes to the gyno and has never been positive for the virus. Her past lovers did not get herpes from her after her "exposure" and neither did I. This, among other things to follow, does not convince me that everyone I fuck is now contaminated.
I am interested here in peoples views on sex (casual or otherwise) and "successfully treated" individuals. I very much respect women and will reluctantly continue to tell potential partners of my past exposure - but I assure you, though I am honest, I will verbally play down any risks. But seriously folks, the guilt and "dirtiness" must end. Im not dirty, I had a wart. Fuck it, I've had the flu before too and my immune system was able to adequately deal with it - and I bet I got plenty of flu and cold viruses floating around in this microbe-zoo that is my body. Shit, I bet most of you would be horrified to learn of the amount of viruses and organisms that we co-habitate with. Our environment is absolutely infested with microbial life in all forms - and many of it affects us only temporarily, if at all. Our immune systems are what keep our bodies from massive breakdown from the constant invasion by other life-forms - which is why an immunodeficiency virus like HIV/AIDS is so devastating.
The only thing that sucked worse than the wart (and getting it frozen off), is the stigma I feel now - I know you all feel the same way. Genital warts seem to be a 90% mental affliction. We have our society to thank for that one. I have had a number of professionals (including my father) dismiss warts as a nuisance, and though contagious, a treatable affliction for MOST. Like I said, shit happens. For those having trouble treating recurrent manifestations of warts, I am truly sorry - but please realize too that you are also NOT walking STD's and I do believe with time and proper attention, that those with well functioning immune systems (and positive mental states) can control it.
If I see one more post saying that "if you have had a wart, any person you sleep with will now be infected with HPV whether or not they ever get warts", I am going to scream.
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Comments:
11/24/2003 11:25:08 PM
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Annonymous
RE: "Treated and Horny".....AllI can say is you're too funny...I couldn't have put it better myself! When I'm finished beating myself up over this every day I remind myself--"wait, I've had the flu, and mono and alot of other more invasive viruses" and no one ever really cares if you give them a cold. I couldn't agree more. My doctor actually said that in a year or two it would be possible to be "immune".. and I actually just read some stuff to support that.
11/25/2003 2:37:40 AM
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This is what I think. We need to separate the issues. I don't think we need to live like pariahs just because we have HPV. Some people want to have sex more than others and so let them. But to go and say that we are not contagious (because we might be) is going too far. It's simply not a true statement. BUT! I think perspective is called for. It's a wart not some super killer virus and people who are judgemental about HPV can go take a hike.
11/25/2003 4:14:27 PM
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Craig
I agree.
11/25/2003 4:39:14 PM
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Charles
Time for an HPV dating service!! LOL!! In reality, from the data I've gathered this is no different than most other viruses in that you body does beat it after a while...it just takes more time to root it out as it hides in the skin rather than the bloodstream.
11/27/2003 9:55:14 PM
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does anyone know that flaxseed oil helps boost the immune system. that's what im taking. I know its working because i should have gotten the flu by now. from reading so much info, most people have HPV and dont know it. Im tired of the misunderstanding. I hate the horrible pictures they show online. As for sex, me and my boyfriend have had sex 1 time and its been 2 months. I yearn to make love to him but hey, i choose him over sex :)
12/2/2003 3:40:45 PM
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no name
Hey joe you so f***ing crazy. I'm here laughing in the inside. Alot of the things you said are right. It has been two years so more than likely your body is clear,seeing as though we all know eventually your body will ward off this disease. Just be careful and make the right decisions. Don't sleep with bustdowns. HOLLA!!!
12/9/2003 4:09:29 PM
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amy
I agree. Treated and horny, you found 2 sluts to fuck - good for you. Just be careful. Once you find someone you really are about, I'm sure she will be like the sluts too and not care. So don't worry.