12/17/2003 11:35:07 PM
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Sarah
So what is an anxious introvert with a
history of depression supposed to do??
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12/17/2003 11:49:47 PM
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oh, good questions-try to chnace what
they can I suppose-get a support group
(hi!), try meditation, get on some
anti-anxiety meds, smile (proven to
elivate your mood and outlook) find a
hobby, work out,any other ideas out
there?
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12/18/2003 12:03:13 PM
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Craig
I believe it.
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12/18/2003 2:00:43 PM
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I'm a very well rounded person, I have
great friends, family, social life and
support system. I work out 4-5 a weeks,
eat a very well balanced diet and my GW
have progressed to where I might need
surgery. EVERY human being experiences
some type of stress or depression at
some point, so I believe the above
mentioned is complete bull.
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12/18/2003 5:17:17 PM
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The journal of American Medical
Association is not "bull". Perhaps
you are not familiar with how
scientific reseach on human
populations must be conducted. You
are providing "anecdotal
evidence"...just because something
happens to you doesn't mean that it is
STATISCALLY true....
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12/18/2003 5:18:22 PM
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...understand the meaning of
statistics...you have a one in a
million chance of getting hit by
lightening...that means you probably
won't get hit by lightening, but
someone out there does...not likely
means not impossible.
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12/18/2003 5:22:02 PM
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....Therefore...when JAMA publishes
results of a study, they do so only
when something is found to be true in
89% of the population (95% is the
standard number) that means that 5% of
those with a relaxed personality type
will not exhibit the stregnth in
immunity. I am very sorry if you are
one of those 5%...but your immediate
dismisal that a community of over
1,000 MD reseachers is "bull"
indicates to me that perhaps you are
not as relaxed as you think.
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12/18/2003 5:44:42 PM
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good description of statistics. I am
a statistician and the lightning
example is right on ;-) For something
to be published in the JAMA it has to
go through lots of hoops and
guidelines. The fact of the matter
is, whether you believe the article or
not, you should believe it. A
positive attitude is everything. I
know two people who were told that
they were going to die of cancer, and
they are both walking around today
because of strength and will.
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12/18/2003 5:45:50 PM
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(cont) Its not 80% physical and 20%
mental in fighting this virus, its the
exact opposite, as it is with
anything. Keep your head up, a
positive attitude, and smile and laugh
and have fun because a positive
attitude is in fact everything.
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12/18/2003 5:50:29 PM
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...awsome post above-thank you. That
is what everyone needs to hear. ANd
thanks for backing me up. I am not
trying to sound condescending-but I am
in the science bus and I know how
tough it is to get published in JAMA-
many of you out there have no need for
that type of info-what I am trying to
say is that this is info to be
trusted. So lets smile and remember
how awsome we are.
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12/18/2003 11:07:20 PM
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WOW!!! please MOST "Doctors" Don't know
their ass from their elbows, when it
comes to HPV. Please don't speak as if
you're above it all, just because
you've had your head (no pun intended)
in some books here and there. I base
all my "studies" on my own life
experiences, when dealing with HPV.
This is the first time I've ever heard
of, that by having a good personality
you can eliminate the HPV virus.
Sorry, but this is complete BULLSHIT.
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12/18/2003 11:14:18 PM
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(COND)If so many studies are being
conducted and proven, THEN WHY THE HELL
DO WE NOT HAVE A CURE OR VACCINATION!?
Yeah, study "personalities" of people
with HPV but not a cure, REAL
SMART!!!!!!!!!
Try to find that in a book.
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12/18/2003 11:14:38 PM
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That's right, you know more than
anybody.
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12/18/2003 11:16:20 PM
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To the poster two posts above: if you
understood how the FDA works you would
know why there is no vaccination
yet...there is a cure available now in
some lab somewhere but it takes YEARS
to pass all the red tape paperwork
through the FDA before it gets on the
shelves at pharmacies. And yes that is
in books.
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12/19/2003 1:31:10 AM
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I posted the thread about how my change
in attitude etc has had a positive
influence on my physical well-being and
obviously how my body is dealing with
the virus. To the person that believes
it is"bull", you certainly sound like
you harbour a deep-seated anger and
resentment. If you don't want to
believe it, don't, but don't discourage
others from having faith in themselves
and the fact that their own mind and
body can overcome this virus.
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12/19/2003 11:44:35 AM
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Oh, please. I'm not trying to
discourage anyone from anything. I
never said, I don't believe that the
virus can't be eliminated from the body.
All I'm saying is you can't trust
everything you read, that all. I ahve
the right to my own opinion and so does
everyone else. I'm not here to battle
anyone or insult anyone,(which is what
most have done)
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12/19/2003 12:28:49 PM
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but dealing with this as long as I
have, I'd rather (SEE) proof then read
about it. Also for the poster you wrote
"you sound like you harbour a deep-
seated anger and resentment" you are
soooo wrong! That is a very, very bold
and childish statement, but just like
this subject, I'll brush it off.
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12/19/2003 12:29:48 PM
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Maybe I should not comment on something
that you all claim I know nothing
about, which may be right but to insult
and out someone some for voicing their
won opinon is wrong.
Take care all
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12/19/2003 12:33:33 PM
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Sorry, I meant, to insult and put
someone down for (only) voicing the own
opinion is wrong.
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12/19/2003 5:11:16 PM
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Thread poster
...right, I meant to post a positive
FACT and someone is getting all first
ammendment on my to post their
negative OPINION. maybe you should
get off an HPV support group board and
start your own HPV gloom and doom
board. If people in the med
profession don't know their ass from
their elbow...what does that say about
the general population?
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12/19/2003 5:46:32 PM
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On the FDA poster above--According to my
research the median length of time it
takes them to approve new drugs is 22
months. So if Merk applies for the HPV
vaccine in 2005, then we're talking 2007.
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12/19/2003 6:50:28 PM
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That's just for the FDA
review...there's like 10 years of
studies/trials/process even before
that. Here's a link:
http://www.adviral.com/ADVR/science/nda.
htm
I have no idea if/when Merck applied
yet, furthermore if the FDA finds
something not up to par it could set
the whole thing back 2-3 in which Merck
may not find it financially feasible at
that point and just stop development.
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12/19/2003 6:53:00 PM
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Who knows when these vaccines will
actually come out. I'm not holding my
breath...my body will clear this stupid
virus before they do probably. And if
they do come out will it be only for
the cancerous types?? Preventative
rather than theraputic?? Women only??
Who knows. All the literature is
outdated and I haven't heard s**t in a
while that is anything real.
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12/19/2003 6:55:55 PM
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No one that is already seeeking help
on this site will find the vaccine of
any use. It takes a hell of a long
time for the fda to approve things,
which is fine with me...its better
than the alternative, you know? But
we'll all be done with this by the
time a vac comes out.
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12/19/2003 7:26:58 PM
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Yeah, that sucks but it's pretty much
true. Like I said, I'm not holding my
breath for these things.
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12/20/2003 1:01:22 AM
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"All the literature is outdated and I
haven't heard s**t in a while that is
anything real" All I have to say is,
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK
YOU !!!!! :):):):):):)
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12/20/2003 1:52:30 AM
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Merck seems to be gearing up to get its
preventive HPV vaccine out:
http://www.newratings.com/new2/beta/article_362812.html
This is Merck's big cash cow for the
next few years, so I think we have
something to be hopeful for if Merck
puls our of its slump.
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12/20/2003 10:17:08 AM
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The literature I posted was reported
in December 2003. Sorry, I can't get
much more contemporary at this time.
Maybe there are time machines where
you live....
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