12/1/2004 9:37:25 PM
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i have had hpv for over a year now, my
husband has had it for three years,
his warts keep coming back even after
he has them treated with acid. they
will go away and come back in a few
months. hope this helps
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12/2/2004 7:18:41 AM
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Yes, you never get rid of hpv
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12/2/2004 7:51:30 AM
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The studies say that approximately 60%
of people will have been infected with
HPV by the time they graduate college,
and overall 75 to 95% of people will
have been infected by age 50. Only 1
to 5% of those infected get symptoms,
so ultimately most people have had it
without an outbreak. Even if what the
above poster says is true (which it
isnt)that would mean that there are a
lot of people in our boat. Don't
sweat it.
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12/2/2004 7:58:01 AM
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To the first responder, you should
have your husband try either Aldara or
Freezing to treat his warts. Both of
which stimulate an immune response to
the virus rather than simply treat the
wart. From what I've heard the acid
treatments aren't the best. Good Luck.
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12/2/2004 10:39:08 AM
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1st poster
he's had freezing done as well as acid
treatments, it is just a really
agressive strain, it has caused me
cancer. next time i am suggesting he
try aldara, hope it isnt as bad for
him as it was for me. thanks though.
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12/2/2004 12:43:59 PM
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John
How could using Aldara possibly be
worse than acid/freezing?
Does you husband smoke or do anything
else to weakan his immune system?
Does he exercise?
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12/2/2004 2:45:01 PM
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thing is, most of the replies are
going to be people with the extreme (i
shouldnt say extreme but less then
normal cass). people that have had it
and never had a reocurrance are not
going to be posting on this board they
have moved on in life, and rightly so
because if you haven't had a breakout
in years most likely your immune
system has suppress it to insufficient
levels, if this didn't happen--
millions of people would be on this
board crashing it
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12/7/2004 3:02:04 PM
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most people on here have just found
out, after two years or more..virus is
gone to the point that any worry over
it is useless, life is way too short
to worry about this, yes we like to
think everything is perfect but it is
not...at least your now aware, maybe
this will help in making some
important life choices
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12/8/2004 5:30:34 AM
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Greg
I'm a male that has had the warts
frozen, cut out/off, used acid
treatments and anyway you could
possibly imagine or buy! They go away
from that spot and a few months later
i have them in a new location this has
been going on for ten years. I'm
pretty sure some people will never get
rid of them, I have never spread them
to my female partner, why? Yes, she is
aware that I have them and they re-
occur after removal
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12/8/2004 7:43:48 AM
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You might want to get a biopsy on them
to make sure that they are actually
warts. If they are that's just the
way HPV goes. Some people's immune
systems can beat it, some people's
can't. There are some good vaccine's
coming out for you that might help you
finally kick it's butt in a year or
two. Best luck.
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12/9/2004 8:41:23 PM
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here is a good site to answer questions
http://www.arhp.org/healthcareproviders/onlinepublications/clinicalproceedings/cphpv/types.cfm?ID=149
http://www.arhp.org/files/hpvfigure4.gif
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12/12/2004 2:09:48 AM
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NAM
I contracted HPV about six years ago
from the first guy I slept with. I
remember feeling a discomfort in my
genital area and going to see a doctor -
it was then I got the abnormal PAP.
They did cryotherapy, and every PAP
since has been normal. Plus I've been
abstinent for years. I want to talk to
my doctor about this. Six years is a
long time to have no symptoms and
assume I'm this germy thing that must
confess if I want to get into a
relationship. :(
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12/12/2004 8:37:02 AM
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The above poster is wrong, you still
have hpv in your body
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12/12/2004 10:26:33 AM
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No, the last poster is the one who is
wrong. 92% of people will clear their
infection within 3 years. If you've
been over 3 years whitout any sexual
activity at all or any symptom of HPV
then with over 90% certainty you are
fine and free to live a normal life.
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12/12/2004 2:01:38 PM
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no one is right or wrong - nobody knows.
call the cdc/ asha hotline and ask them
- here is were you can get the number
http://www.ashastd.org/hotlines/hpvhotline.html
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12/12/2004 2:05:58 PM
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arhp, says 10-20% of patients either
remain in active disease expression, or
"recur" after a lesion-free interval.
Although it is unknown if anyone
actually clears the virus, 80% of ppl
can go into "sustained clinical
remission." It is unclear if latent HPV
should is contagious, but is assumed not
to be. there is a link a few up to arhp.org
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12/12/2004 4:20:56 PM
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I'm reading the ARHP site now and do
not see that statistic you are
referencing, it only says that 10% to
20% do not clear easily (found here:
http://www.arhp.org/healthcareproviders
/onlinepublications/clinicalproceedings
/cc_introduction.cfm?ID=95#
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12/12/2004 4:21:45 PM
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Other good ARHP Quotes:
"Many estimates have placed the
lifetime likelihood of getting genital
HPV to be in the range of 75-90%"
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12/12/2004 4:24:08 PM
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Other good ARHP Quotes:
"Once no further HPV lesions can be
found, and no new lesions appear
during the subsequent months, the
chance of shedding enough HPV to be
contagious dramatically falls...as
months go by with no lesions found
(especially if none are found by a
skilled clinician), the possibility of
being contagious is likely to be
increasingly remote even if the virus
remains in a latent state"
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12/12/2004 4:25:22 PM
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Other good ARHP Quotes:
"Most people (up to 90%) who test
positive for HPV with very sensitive
tests for HPV (polymerase chain
reaction [PCR] and Hybrid CaptureŽ II)
will become HPV negative on the same
tests within 6-24 months from first
testing positive. This is due to an
effective immune response to HPV."
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12/12/2004 4:26:40 PM
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Other good ARHP Quotes:
"Whether it is completely eliminated
or just suppressed is not likely to be
a significant issue because most
people who have an effective immune
response to HPV do not have lesions
develop from this HPV infection at
some distant time."
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12/12/2004 6:19:59 PM
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just because it says your lifetime
likeihood of getting hpv is 75 to 90%
that doesn't mean the likeihood of
having lifetime hpv is 75 to 90%
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12/12/2004 6:26:52 PM
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same as above
I got the information from
http://www.arhp.org/healthcareproviders/onlinepublications/clinicalproceedings/cphpv/types.cfm?ID=149
Host containment - last four paragraphs.
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12/12/2004 6:27:27 PM
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same as above
"This process will occur spontaneously
in as many as 20-34% of infected
individuals, marking the end of any
clinically apparent episodes. In another
60% of patients, localized destruction
of condylomas stimulates this process,
leading to a lasting clinical remission.
"However, in the approximately 20%,
HPV-induced lesions do not result in an
immune response and prove refractory to
standard office treatments." ahrp
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12/12/2004 6:28:38 PM
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same as above
"HPV-induced oncogenesis requires
long-term viral persistence. Hence, the
subset that is at risk for neoplastic
progression is the 10-20% of patients
who either remain in active disease
expression, or who "recur" after a
lesion-free interval. Presumably, most
people in this subset have a reduced
immunocompetence to HPV of unknown
etiology. When immunity to HPV does
occur, it appears to be type specific." ahrp
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12/12/2004 6:37:09 PM
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same as above
I think we are saying the same thing -
that with immune system response and
time you might not be contagious - the
ahrp clinical proceedings are great.
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12/12/2004 7:28:57 PM
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Hmm...I wonder where they get that 10
to 20% is derived from, because every
other study has it tabbed at less than
8%.
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12/12/2004 9:18:18 PM
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It was published in 2001 - maybe things
have improved.
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12/13/2004 2:55:29 AM
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NAM
So what does this mean? If I haven't
have not had an infection in six years
than I have to assume I'm contagious
for the rest of my life? Is there a
definitive HPV DNA test I can take to
find out this stuff? It seems silly - I
picture myself as a senior citizen
having to explain this discretion that
happened in the distant past.
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12/13/2004 7:59:01 AM
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No, if you havent had an infection in
six years then you can assume that you
are okay. Its people who show
persistent infections that have long
term problems with this. There is an
HPV test you can take but they don't
administer it to women until they are
30 years old or if you have an
abnormal pap smear.
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12/13/2004 7:59:58 AM
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A lot of people will argue with me on
this, but if you've gone 6 years with
no signs, you are safer than anybody
else out there who has had multiple
partners over the last few years. The
odds are greater that they have
current asymptomatic infection than
that you still have anything
communicable yourself.
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12/13/2004 11:18:46 PM
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hpv can cause microcellular changes
not visible to the naked eye, so how
do you know you havent had any
problems with it in 6 years? it could
be causing changes right now in your
penis or vulva and you cant see it.
on women, the only reason they can
detect these microcellular changes on
the cervix is b/c of pap smear. there
is no such test for external skin.
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12/13/2004 11:31:19 PM
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Jesus! Studies have shown that by the
time you graduate collegr 60% of women
have already been infected with HPV.
That's more than half folks. As time
goes on that percentage only rises.
Everybody gets this. Stop thinking it
to death, no abnormal paps in 6 years,
no warts in 6 years, you are good to
go. 95% of everyone else out there is
banging away, and they didn't take 6
years off for their immune system to
do the dirty work. Time to let it go
already.
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12/14/2004 12:03:32 AM
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I don't mind to tell my future partners,
but in the mean time some reassurance
that I won't spend the rest of my life
with the active disease is nice. I hope
in six years I can say I've been free of
hpv signs, but I'm not going to spend
the next six years freaking out about
having it for the rest of my life. Give
the statistics so credit. The number of
infections drop dramatically with age?
Why do you think that is? 90% of ppl
build immunity?
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12/14/2004 9:20:16 AM
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totally agree...thing is hpv lives in
your epidermas right? well this layer
regenerates every 30 days or
so...Thing is hpv must actively
replicate --- meaning actively infect
other cells to reproduce hpv.
Otherwise as time passes the cells in
the epidermas get pushed to the
surface with all the other dead cells
and will die off -- very different
from herpes which lives in nerve cells
that don't die off like skin cells
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12/14/2004 9:24:23 AM
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poster above
...therefore after six layers your
epidermas has been totally replace a
number of 72 times...combine this with
the fact that your immune system has
gotten a chance to produce antibodies
that attach to the infected cell
surface which then the infected cells
gets eaten by marophages...how can
people say clearance is not possible?
It is not a systemic virus like the
flu or the even a cold virus? It is
very local...now if it progress to
cancer that is another issue.
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12/14/2004 9:24:45 AM
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...meant SIX YEARS above
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12/14/2004 9:32:01 AM
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very interesting! there is hope yet.
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12/15/2004 3:00:37 AM
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NAM
Thanks for your feedback, everyone. And
for the record, I've had regular pap
smears, and informed my doctor of that
one abnormal pap. So the doctor has
known what to look for! That's why there
are paps: for things not seen by the
naked eye!
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12/15/2004 3:11:59 AM
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my point is paps only test the
cervical tissue, NOT the vulvar area,
and high risk hpv can also lie here, i
am not saying that it is on you, i am
just saying it can. i had hpv 16 in
my vulvar tissue, this is a high risk
strain and it caused me to have vulvar
cancer. my point is, high risk, not
visible to the naked eye, CAN also lie
in this tissue and there is no test
for it.
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12/15/2004 7:51:35 AM
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High risk strains are the most common
infections, are usually asymptomatic,
only turn to cancer is less than 0.01%
of people who get HPV, and have been
shown to clear in 3 years like all of
the other strains. It does live in
other tissue, usually only shows on
the cervix, but is usually just as
benign to everyone else just like any
other strain of HPV.
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12/29/2004 5:35:54 AM
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point here is usually, not ALWAYS,
which means there is still a risk and i
think ppl should be informed of that
risk.
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1/3/2005 4:01:18 PM
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what do you want people running around
like the sky is falling. you come on
here telling your story, fine. But
don't use scare tatics to make us all
think we are in you boat, yes WE know
cancer is real, but the majority won't
see it...this is a support board NOT a
downer board!
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1/3/2005 7:24:04 PM
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no, as i have said about a million
times before, i am trying to inform ppl
of the possiblities, most girls only
know to worry about pap smear, all i am
saying is monitor your vulva and do
self exams once a month so you DONT end
up with that cancer thats so very real.
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1/4/2005 1:16:37 PM
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look, if people are smart enough to
come here onto this board then they
know to get themselves checked out by
a profession -- otherwise you posting
your story over and over, you are
preaching to the choir hear. Also I
am sure they would notice a wart if it
was down there and get it checked out.
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1/4/2005 1:18:35 PM
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...also you don't hear from many
people that have had one wart and move
on and never dealt with it again
because they get informed...I have
been on here long enough to see them
come and go...they come back awhile
later saying how great everything is
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1/9/2005 6:24:39 PM
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new
i had a wart 25 years ago, my wife as
well.hers suddenly healed up and mine
was burnt reocuured and destroyed with
podophyllum. after that nothing till i
got infected on purpose 2 month ago by
a whore who rubbed my cock against her
warts.I hope aldara works.
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