1/24/2005 9:09:10 AM
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You never know whether you have fought
off the virus. Because the virus can
sleep and wake up after many years
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1/24/2005 1:26:20 PM
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yes, above poster is correct. also,
what exactly do you mean by "fought it
off", b/c if you mean irradicate it, NO
ONE can do that, however, your immune
system can suppress it so it lies
dormant. i dont know anyone who now
tests clean, everyone i know with hpv,
has had it for a least a few yrs and
are continuously dealing with outbreaks
and/or dysplasia. they may have one
clean pap, then its back or warts are
back a few months later. hope this
helps.
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1/24/2005 2:17:44 PM
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Yes it helps. So hopefully there will
be some miracle and they'll find a
cure for us!! So no matter what you'll
spread this virus even if the warts
aren't there??
I heard there have been studies that
show people "fighting off" the virus,
removing it from their system.
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1/24/2005 5:22:00 PM
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ppl that "fight it off", their immune
system has fought the virus and
suppressed it to such low numbers, it
is dormant. problem is, if your immune
system function gets lowered (like
extended sickness) your body cant keep
the virus dormant, it begins
replicating again and increases to a
large enough number to cause problems,
(i.e. warts and/or dysplasia) when the
virus is dormant, it cant be passed.
but ppl dont know when the virus has
gone from dormant to active again
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1/24/2005 5:24:04 PM
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cont from above
b/c the majority of ppl with hpv are
asymptomatic, meaning they show no
visible signs of the virus like warts
or dysplasia, EVEN when the virus is
active. this is why, i personally
believe if you know you have been
diagnosed, you should inform others b/c
you cant tell if you can pass it or not
to them since you cant tell if you have
a current outbreak. hope this helps
some.
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1/24/2005 11:48:09 PM
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Thank you!
Thank you sooo much I've read so much
and that was the only thing I read
that really explained it. Thank you!!
I have been loading up on vitamins and
exercising and cleaning my hands
nonstop . . . I guess that's what
I'll be doing for the rest of my life!
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1/25/2005 2:19:40 PM
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not a problem! i know it can be
frustrating trying to figure out this
damn virus. hey, look at it this way.
having this virus might just make you
healthier now, and thats a good thing.
i guess call it the silver lining,
right? good luck! (posted 2nd, 4th and
5th posts on here)
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1/25/2005 2:21:51 PM
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So when this virus is so called sleep
where is it?
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1/25/2005 4:02:04 PM
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to above question
it is lying dormant inside your cells,
not replicating and not making changes,
which is why it cant be detected at
that point. theres a girl that posted
on here that even had the hpv dna test
come up negative, which would make it
seem she didnt have it anymore. and
then she got another outbreak. thing
is, if the virus isnt active, they have
no way of detecting it. its kinda like
we cant locate the virus by itself, but
rather by the changes it makes in our
bodies.
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1/25/2005 4:28:29 PM
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Dormant? that is a fallacy. When you
get HPV it is actually active the
entire time whether or not it is
showing symptoms. Over time the immune
system tackles it. Skin cells
regenerate often..so if you dont have
problems for 2 years or so it is gone
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1/25/2005 6:44:32 PM
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to above poster
oh, really? so you mean to tell me you
have actually DONE medical research on
this? you mean that all those ppl on
this board that have had it for yrs and
went yrs with no problems are all
lying? you mean all those widows who
havent had intercourse in yrs and then
start having dysplasia are lying? and
all the med research to go along w/
their problems is also false? oh, ok,
well then, its good to have you around
to save us from all the "lies".
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1/25/2005 6:51:09 PM
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what is the difference between herpes
and warts?
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1/25/2005 7:14:22 PM
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they are both viruses, but they produce
different kinds of symptoms. hpv is
largly asymptomatic, when there are
symptoms, it is warts or dysplasia on
the cervix, picked up during a pap.
herpes causes little open sores on the
genitals. ever had a cold sore on your
lip? this is also a strain of herpes.
as is chicken pox and shingles. i dont
personally have herpes, but this should
give you an idea of the types of sores
and/or lesions you could get.
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1/25/2005 11:44:22 PM
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Thank you
I don't think you know how much better
you've made me feel. I am so glad I
found this site. It really opens my
eyes, and YES you are definitely right
about making me healthier. I've been
treating my body a lot better. I've
always been a health nut but now I've
taken it up a notch. Thank you very
much
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1/26/2005 3:46:37 AM
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sure thing! glad i can help. =)
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1/26/2005 9:34:10 AM
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do you know you skin has the most stem
cells in your body...hpv must keep
replicating or it will be booted from
your epidermal cells -- they are
replace every 30 days. How can hpv
stay inside of a cell without
replicating...it must in order to
ensure its own survival.
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1/26/2005 9:36:14 AM
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also the people that have had it for
years have the problem relating HPV to
your immune system... Everyone
assumes everyone has the same
immunological response, where this is
not true...why then would should
people have constant outbreaks and
others have none?
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1/26/2005 6:19:14 PM
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i'm not talking about ppl with constant
outbreaks, i'm talking about ppl who
havent had a sexual encounter in 10-15
yrs and THEN, they start showing warts
or dysplasia. also, a common
misconception about hpv is that it is
only in the skin. the virus is also in
small amounts in bodily fluids. do a
search for detecting hpv in semen and
read about it. if they can detect hpv
in semen, that means the virus does NOT
only stay in the skin, but in other
areas as well.
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1/26/2005 7:49:34 PM
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to above poster
=Where are the documented medical
cases of people who have been celibate
for 10 years and then suddenly have
warts? HPv is NOT in semen
either...semen is a mode of
transportation of the infected skin
cells.....BOY are you a MORON.
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1/27/2005 9:29:58 AM
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to above "above poster"....I will
grant you particles of hpv in semen.
However, THAT IS AS FAR AS IT
GOES...AND IT CANNOT REPLICATE IN SEMEN
"OTHER AREAS AS WELL...IS COMPLETE
HORSESHIT!!" Epidermal layer and
fragments of HPV have been found in
Semen however, that has been shown
because it interacts with the
epidermal layer.
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1/27/2005 9:30:54 AM
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....oh and the people that haven't had
sexual contact for 15 years?? What
about their so called "faithful"
partner?
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1/27/2005 9:32:04 AM
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...what about the people that have had
one outbreak and never saw it again or
transmitted concernable symptoms to
their partner
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1/27/2005 2:32:45 PM
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ok, if they havent had sexual contact
in 15 yrs, it doesnt really matter if
their "partner" is faithful or not, b/c
they DIDNT FUCKING HAVE SEXUAL
CONTACT!!!! and besides, i'm talking
about widows you fucking morons!!
their partners are all DEAD.
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1/27/2005 2:35:34 PM
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how did evertyhing get off on this
tangent anyways? the original poster
asked about the difference between hpv
and herpes, and you ppl are all
bitching at each other! look, you have
different views and ideas, so just
accept that you all have different
views and ideas and drop it ok? stop
trying to prove each other wrong, b/c
its just making you seem like assholes.
please stop arguing and start
supporting.
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1/27/2005 2:51:18 PM
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"HPV can exist forever. We've had 80
year old widows (for 30 years) come up
with an "HPV" compatible Pap. Exposure
can have been many, many years before."
http://www.wdxcyber.com/m2cervix.htm
"We occasionally see elderly widows who
have not had sexual intercourse for
many years have a breakout of genital
warts on the vulva or even showing up
on Pap smears. Once you have been
exposed to the virus, it is harbored in
your body forever. "
http://www.wdxcyber.com/nvulva.htm
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1/27/2005 3:33:00 PM
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poster three up...got some real
serious issues. Anger management
anyone
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1/27/2005 9:34:47 PM
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MY QUESTION
Thanks to ya'll who answered my
question and helped me . . .
to the person who is acting like a
jerk go take your shit somewhere else
bc I dont have the time to waste on
you neither does anyone else. I was
looking for support not someone to be
an ass
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1/27/2005 10:25:08 PM
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jennifer
not a problem original poster. i'm the
one who responded to everything except
the very first post and of course the
jack ass arguing with me. sorry, i
never bother putting my name.
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1/28/2005 9:44:01 AM
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80 year old widows for30years? that
would make them 50 when they lost
their husband...how many guys die at 50?
no many. Besides the medical community
stops doing paps at a certain time
because cervical cancer kicks in from
35-45 not 80.
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1/28/2005 5:23:17 PM
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actually, thats the reason that so many
women are still getting dx with
cervical cancer is b/c they stop doing
paps on a regular basis after a woman
goes thru menopause. to all women on
here, please, even after menopause dont
stop getting paps, it doesnt matter how
old you are you can still get hpv and
still get cervical cancer. i know
women its happened to.
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1/28/2005 5:28:20 PM
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p.s. "Even though the average age of
diagnosis is 50 to 55 years, it is not
unheard of for younger women to be
diagnosed with the cancer. Cervical
cancer is preventable if it is detected
early with a PAP smear. If you are over
the age of 64 or postmenopausal, you
should still continue to have regular
PAP smears." http://www.pregnancy-
info.net/cervical.html
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